Just talking
Nov. 16th, 2006 04:52 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
constance_bNow don't get me wrong, I like posting there. I always get feedback, and a review from a crazy person is better than no review at all, most of the time, but sometimes... I'm confused. Seriously, I had to go back and check that I'd posted the right chapter, because I don't remember writing anything controversial.
For one, I don't always understand what they're saying. Some of it's me not doing the internet speak (LMFAO, Zoegrace? ITA, anyone? stabinate?) and if someone could point me towards an online dictionary for Initial Words and Internet Speak I'd be very grateful. But sometimes, it's just them. If you're going to have such strongly held opinions, you might wanna work out exactly what they are, and then put your points into some kind of logical order, with sentences, before sharing. Because I'm honestly not sure in one or two cases if people are hating the fic, other reviewers, the show, or the (fictional!) characters themselves.
And second, I'm kinda puzzled as to how to anyonecan have a strongly held opinion about a chapter of a fic. It's the tenth chapter, and I don't think it takes a very different turn from the other nine. And, IT'S A STORY. And I suppose it should be flattering that people are reading and have something to say, except, I think they're skimping on the reading part over on the BSV. Maybe the shoe thing is me, I've never been to California, maybe shoes are free or so cheep that it's wildly unrealistic to have Buffy unable to afford a pair from the cash in her pocket. Worst case, it's a crummy plot device on my part to get them into the conversation I wanted them to have. But... I don't see how you can read more into it than that. I don't see how the price of shoes says anything about the characters or my dishonorable intentions towards them. And this And had lead directly, to Buffy's mind at least, to the mountain of bad-and-possibly-spell-induced decision making that was that first kiss and a heap of misery for both of them. Does that say that I think the whole Spuffy relationship was the product of a spell? No, didn't think so. Not my clearest sentence ever, but Slackerace gave it a pass so I'm assuming it makes sense and says that their first kiss, at the end of OMWF, was possible spell induced. Possibly How can you start F-ing and blinding about a possibly? They were still singing, for christsakes, with the chorus singing 'the curtains close on a kiss' in the background. It's not a huge stretch of the imagination to think the singing and the kissing were possibly connected. What is there to get worked up about? And don't they give you pills for that?
Oh well. At least Ari was disagreeing with Kim, who said Oh, Buffy, it's not a "couldn't"..it's a "wouldn't". And you dealt him way more misery than he ever gave to you. Spike hardly did a thing you didn't ask for or demand. You're the one that wouldn't stick with the friendship. To quote Ari - what show were you watching? And to which couldn't do you refer? And why are you talking to the Buffy in my fic as if she's a real person? Crazy, see?
I said a while ago all comments where welcome and I stand by that. In fact I'll be slightly disappointed if I post the next chapter and nobody swears at me. But when the reviews are swearing at eachother... that's not nice. Everyone's entitled to an opinion, even if it's a crazy opinion. And it's a review, the abuse should at least be about the fic, right? Telling other reviewers to shut the fuck up, that's stretching the definition.
Done now. My apologies to the 90% (okay, 70%... okay, the majority) of people at the BSV who aren't crazy. I'm assuming the crazies haven't made it to LJ and won't be reading, because no way do I want to read an email from a crazy person explaining why they aren't crazy. I don't think I can be bothered to reply to the reviews themselves, not a lot to say except to suggest they all smoke some pot, or get laid or (and I never thought I'd ever say this) care a little less about BtVS and fanfiction.
Ah, lovely LJ, where comments are polite and articulate. How I love you.
In RL, my child is going to Doncaster with her Daddy for a short weekend tomorrow, and my home is all my own for only the second time since she was born, three years ago Sunday. I'm torn between throwing a wild and drunken party... and just sitting here in the internet cafe all weekend. It's scary how easy that would be. I've been online three hours and all I've managed to do is skim through my flist. Even though I was all up to date just a few days ago. Sometimes I'm quite glad I don't have the internet at home. I'd never do anything else.
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Date: 2006-11-16 05:02 pm (UTC)Plenty of crazy people on LJ too, I fear.
That all sounds really horrible. I'm sorry it happened to you - though I suppose in a way it's good that people can still have such strong views on the show after all this time. Not nice to be on the receiving end, though.
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Date: 2006-11-16 05:22 pm (UTC)And I've not encountered any of the LJ crazies yet, unless I qualify!
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Date: 2006-11-16 05:31 pm (UTC)No, you're perfectly sane, don't worry.
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Date: 2006-11-16 05:47 pm (UTC)I'm a Spuffy Shipper!
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Date: 2006-11-17 09:47 am (UTC)Your point?
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Date: 2006-11-16 06:07 pm (UTC)*misspellings intentional. ;)
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Date: 2006-11-16 05:34 pm (UTC)A few of the 'internet speak' things that might help.
lol - laughing out loud
lmao - laughing my ass off
rofl - rolling on the floor laughing
LMFAO - laughing my f*cking ass off
ROFLMAO - rolling on the floor laughing my ass off
rofltip - rofling of the floor laughing til i pee
*g* - grin
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Date: 2006-11-16 06:06 pm (UTC)and LMFAO @ And second, I'm kinda puzzled as to how to anyonecan have a strongly held opinion about a chapter of a fic. It's the tenth chapter, and I don't think it takes a very different turn from the other nine. And, IT'S A STORY
You freaking crack me up! And I don't think there is anything wrong with the shoe issue. Yes, buffy had designer shoes THAT HER PARENTS BOUGHT HER. She's not going to have cash for shoes for spike, especially since it's the beginning of season seven, after the year from hell, when she's worried about paying the mortgage with a FAST FOOD PAYCHECK. I really think some readers completely ignore where we are at in the timeline. Designer shoes was So season TWO when her DADDY BOUGHT THEM! Not the year of, "I came back from heaven, want to die and have been flipping burgers."
And yes, OMWF WAS a spell induced kiss, you didn't say all the sexcapades were spell induced, only what started it was. (some people are freaking psychotic seriously, and all you can do is point and laugh and wish you were a monkey so you could throw poo at them.)
LMAO @ "what is there to get worked up about" EXACTLY.
hahahahaha @ talking to your buffy like she's a real person. Oh my god...i'm about to fall out of my chair. This post completely kicks ass lol.
hahaha @ not wanting to read an email from a crazy person explaining why they aren't crazy. I totally heart you, but not in a creepy fan stalker way.
The best thing about LJ is you can always screen out the crazy people by friends locking your journal and not letting the crazies on. lol.
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Date: 2006-11-17 05:20 pm (UTC)Damnit! And I so wanted a creepy fan stalker. Guess I'll have to settle for my creepy thinks-I'm-satan-because-I-write-fics-with-Spike-in-them stalker.
all you can do is point and laugh and wish you were a monkey so you could throw poo at them To use my newly acquired lingo, LMFAO. The internet is a wonderful thing, but it's just not finished until you're able to throw poo at people by email.
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Date: 2006-11-17 05:21 pm (UTC)Not that I consider myself a Spuffy writer exactly... And I've not been over-whelmed at Buffy-Spike Central either. :)
I'm not moaning, I do alright on LJ but I sometimes wonder how I've managed to have such a little impression on the wider fandom.
Or maybe I am deluded.
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That's one I found some time ago.
Weird, a comment war :)
I only know that when one was attacking an author and other defending the author.
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Date: 2006-11-16 11:03 pm (UTC)For what it's worth (which probably is very little!) I'm enjoying the heck out of the way you write this story. Your Buffy is a very believable post Seeing Red/Grave Buffy. A Buffy who accepted Spike without questions (at least in my opinion!) would lack credibility. Plus, that would be pretty dull. It's conflict that creates the tension after all!
I also find it very credible that Buffy doesn't have the money to run out and get Spike new boots. She doesn't know his size after all, and her budget's probably stretched to the breaking point. Though after reading the BSV comments I now have a very disturbing mental image of Spike clomping around sunnydale in rubber flip-flops....
I see some answered your LOL/LMAO question though I'm disappointed no one volunteered the ITA. I've wondered about that myself. International Trombone Association? Irony Trapped Above? Honestly no clue!
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Date: 2006-11-17 09:51 am (UTC)At least I think so.
:Is stricken by horrible doubt:
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Date: 2006-11-17 05:02 pm (UTC)Well duh, that's worth tons.
As to ITA, to me that means intended time of arrival, but that made no sense.
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Date: 2006-11-17 06:59 pm (UTC)Hee! Though thankfully
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Date: 2006-11-17 12:21 am (UTC)Sad, isn't it, that we need to understand "internet-ese". And downright scary when it expands itself to non-internet communication. Thank goodness I no longer have to correct student homework, where I was treated over and over again to "IMHO." Crazy-making for me, that was.
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Date: 2006-11-17 05:09 pm (UTC)IMHO Oh my God! That makes me feel so old, internet was only just starting up when I was at school, internet speak hardly thought of. There was a girl who made the news in England a while back for doing her English GCSE coursework entirely in Text-Speak (the C U L8er type abrieviations.
Does the name come from the little tow top?
I have less than no idea what this comment means, I need translations into American as much as internet speak! If you mean the title of the fic, I stole it. It's the title of the Don McLean song that I've been quoting at the beginning of chapters, I believe it's German for Spinning Top.
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Date: 2006-11-17 12:35 am (UTC)*hugs*